When someone sins against you, we are instructed what to do by Jesus. These are not insignificant sins that we are called to overlook or forbear. These are significant sins that can result in being disfellowshipped and approached like “a Gentile or tax collector” in need of repentance.
West Florida Baptist Church (WFBC) is in the panhandle of Florida. Mike Brown is the senior pastor. He preaches the gospel and teaches the Bible. That is not the issue in this story.
As most people know, I am the object of considerable slander given the nature of my work. See My Story - Resume. Mike has believed this slander and refused to meet with me. This was painful because I considered him a friend in the making.
As a result, I approached him in private. I asked others to get involved. I brought it to the attention of the church. But no action has been taken and no repentance forthcoming. This is a systemic problem in the body of Christ. Too often leaders have little to no accountability.
I wrote his pastoral staff and said in part.
“The elders in Ephesus were being overseen by Timothy on behalf of Paul. He had God given authority to direct them. I realize WFBC is an independent Bible church so there is no outside accountability.
This makes it all the more crucial that you men are speaking into Mike’s life and holding him accountable. I have worked with churches for over 45 years. Rarely have I seen the senior pastor of a large church like WFBC addressed on issues of character by his staff pastors. In most cases, they remain silent in the face of faults or cover up for fear of losing their job or being promoted. There is no true plurality. …
“The Ninth Commandment says, “Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” But Mike has heartlessly embraced the most vicious kind of slander against me by Debi’s daughter.
“And instead of reproving Mike, you have acted to protect him. I am left to conclude you are more concerned about your own glory and reputation than doing what is right.”
I think this story is instructive. That is why I have posted it. It covers a lot of important teaching in the Bible related to leaders including their discipline. It begins with the subject line, “If Your Brother Sins Tell Him His Fault” but Mike Brown is not the only one who has believed evil against me. Of course, Sovereign Grace Churches continues to disseminate lies about me. The same ones Mike has believed. Here is an example.
This past November, I sent this article to all the former and current pastors exposing C.J. Mahaney’s false claims that he founded Sovereign Grace Churches, its Pastors College, and laid its gospel centered foundation.
The Rewriting of Sovereign Grace History
Saturday, November 15, 2025 at 1:22PM
In response, Issac Hydoski (a former pastor for C.J. Mahaney when he was sr. pastor at Covenant Life Church in Gaithersburg, MD) wrote me saying,
“They had already discredited you (rightly or wrongly) but now they are all tracking your confession of sin and your subsequent denial of it.”
“They” is a reference to the leaders of Sovereign Grace Churches. I used to be a top leader in the ministry but left as a matter of conscience in August 2009. Thereafter, I had to expose it’s systemic corruption including a long-term conspiracy to commit and cover up the sexual abuse of children and the sexual assault of young men and women. I’ve written hundreds of articles proving the same.
Anyway, I sent them my confession of sin which they immediately used against me. That was expected. But now they are making the claim that I have denied the confession. So is C.J.’s former pastor, Issac. That is ludicrous. I have denied nothing. This is just one of the many lies they have told to discredit me.
And this is very similar to the lie Mike Brown believed that I have never confessed my sin. It is just one example of his heartless embrace of vicious slander against me. Here is my appeal to him to repent.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 5:00 PM
Subject: If Your Brother Sins Tell Him His Fault
To: Mike Brown
Dear Mike,
I’ve kindly asked you to meet with me based on Proverbs 18:17. I’ve also asked you to come to me based on Matthew 5:23-26.
Now, I come to you based on Jesus’ teaching to his disciples in Matthew 18:15 and Luke 17:3. I want to win you and forgive you.
Matthew 18:15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.”
Luke 17:3 “Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.”
I have a responsibility to you, as you have a responsibility to me, to obey these verses. If you believe I have sinned, then come to me. There are no acceptable excuses. I’ve welcomed this kind of questioning and correction both times I’ve written you.
“Mike, we need to meet. You have been misled and I am happy to answer any and all questions.” (Sept. 19)
“Moreover, we are glad for you to inquire about our relationship or anything else of concern to you. If after our conversation, you still think we are in sin, reprove us. We will take it to heart and consider it before the Lord.” (Sept. 21)
Thus far, you have been unwilling to obey the Word of God. That deprives me of the opportunity to “go and tell him his fault.” I would much rather meet with you in person but that is not possible so I’m constrained to address you in writing.
It is my hope and prayer that you will listen to this life-giving reproof (Prov. 15:31) and repent before the Lord Jesus Christ. My goal is to win you, forgive you, and be reconciled to you. I am making this effort in private. Please be assured, this rebuke has your very best interest in heart!
Please Help Me Understand
Below is the cover letter I sent to you on August 12, 2025. I’ve highlighted salient points in bold italic print. I’ve also included my follow-up email on August 15. You did not respond.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 4:56 PM
Subject: Please Help Me Understand
To: Mike Brown
I’ve attached a letter to you. The opening sentence reads, “Please help me understand why you have been unresponsive to my emails and uninterested in meeting contrary to your word over the past six months.”
August 12, 2025
Hi Mike,
Please help me understand why you have been unresponsive to my emails and uninterested in meeting contrary to your word over the past six months.
I came to WFBC [West Florida Baptist Church] for the first time on January 5. I greeted and encouraged you and Alana in the hallway after the meeting. I also commended your father for his 30 years of ministry. I mentioned I too was a senior pastor for 30 years. You expressed an interest in meeting. I followed up with you.
We met on February 5 and 14. These were great times of fellowship. You mentioned there was no one to disciple you. I told you I’d love to meet again, “sooner or later” and to “just drop me a line.” The next Sunday (Feb. 16), Alana [his wife] told me how much you enjoyed our time together. Yet, I never heard from you.
Maybe it was my article about “20th Century Apostles?” in response to your March 11 inquiry about what I believed about the continuation of apostles and prophets. In your March 16 message on ”Be a Body Builder” from Ephesians 4:7-16, you said the following:
“So, I just want to say this here. If you ever come across somebody who tells you that they are an apostle or a prophet, I’d be extremely careful. I would be extremely, extremely careful. I believe that the office as a whole has ceased.”
I could not help but take notice and wondered if it was directed toward me. Regardless, I continued to reach out and pursue involvement in the church.
On March 2, 9, and 16, I went through the Starting Point class and heard you say prospective members must agree with the Statement of Faith and you can’t be involved in the church if you don’t become members.
On March 16, I wrote you about my desire to be a member and the possibility of approaching the section on “The Second Coming” differently so post-tribulation believers like me (or a person like John Piper) could join the church. I heard nothing back. There was no interest in talking about the issue. I realized then there was no place for me in WFBC. It was discouraging.
Nevertheless, I continued to reach out in hope that I could serve you in some small way. On March 23, I sent you and the executive team my extensive outlines on “Getting the Gospel Right.” Only Dan responded.
On April 6, I put two packets of material on your seat in the auditorium. I did not realize Hamish was preaching that Sunday. He put the material on your office desk. I made book recommendations, provided feedback on various issues, supplied considerable information on the adverse influence of the therapeutic movement in contrast to the doctrine of sanctification, and provided six copies of The Great Rescue [by R.C. Sproul] for the executive team. There was no response.
On Palm Sunday (Apr. 13), I greeted you up front before the service began. You said, “I want you to know I am not avoiding you.” I expressed my desire to meet if you were interested. I expected to hear from you but nothing. You have in fact “avoided” me since February. I don’t know why.
On April 25, I wrote to encourage you about your Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday messages. I also sent you an article on “The Goodness of God” [i.e., The Goodness of God in Good Friday] and followed up about meeting and membership in the church. I heard nothing.
I also said, “I want to release you from any sense of obligation to get with me.” I didn’t want to guilt you into time together.
I continued to send material thereafter as a way of trying to help you in sermon preparation, etc. For example, outlines on “The Heart of a Godly Woman” (Jun. 17), “Parenting” (Jun. 25), and “The Armor of God” (Jul. 19). Once again, I never heard back from you. Not even a short, “Thank you.” I am not looking for praise but I do not understand the pervasive ingratitude.
Then three weeks ago (Jul. 27), we crossed paths in the hallway before the worship service as you were exiting the men’s room. Once again, I expressed a desire to meet if you were interested. You said you’d like to get together but like previous occasions, you broke your word. I hope you see this pattern as a profound lack of integrity.
In summary, I am concerned you think evil of me. If so, tell me. It feels like I’ve been cut off. Clearly, you have separated from me the past six months. I don’t understand why. Therefore, I’d appreciate if you’d provide an explanation. I’d like a written response, if only a brief one. Please be completely honest.
Thank you.
Brent
P.S. Below you will find all pertinent correspondence in chronological order. I hope you will read it to better appreciate what I am saying.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Please Help Me Understand
To: Mike Brown
Hi Mike,
Did you receive my correspondence from earlier in the week?
Thanks
Brent
You did not respond to my appeal or follow-up question. Here are the ways you have sinned against me.
- In lovelessness, you refused to help me understand.
- In callousness, you never responded to my inquiries.
- In pervasive ingratitude, you never thanked me for any of my assistance.
- In deceitfulness, you repeatedly lied and broke your word about meeting.
- In heartlessness, you cut me off without explanation.
- In cowardice, you refused to tell me my sin.
These are all serious transgressions because they violate the Second Great Commandment.
Matthew 22:38-40 “This is the great and first commandment. [39] And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. [40] On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
This is reiterated in the Sermon on the Mount.
Matthew 7:12 “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.”
Mike, your sin is primarily against God – only secondarily against me. These commands come from Christ Jesus our Lord. Therefore, I hope you will seek His forgiveness for breaking His holy law. When you do, I know you’ll return in humility, confess your sin, and make restitution.
I’ve included the 12 pages of “all pertinent correspondence in chronological order” at the end this correspondence as an addendum.
Debi Waldin’s Repeated Request to Meet with You and Alana
I wrote you on August 12 and followed up on August 15. I wanted to meet with you to explain our situation and answer any questions you might have. You were indifferent. After seven months of trying I gave up.
Nevertheless, we didn’t give up. Surely, you would meet with Debi even if you didn’t want to meet with me. Five days after my last email she reached out to you.
From: Debi Waldin
Date: August 20, 2025 at 12:37:19 PM CDT
To: Mike Brown
Subject: Meeting
Hi Mike!
This is Debi Waldin and I’m wondering if it might be possible to meet with both you and Alana. It would just be myself.
Please let me know if this is possible. I know I’m not a member, but would love the opportunity to speak with you both!
Kindest Regards,
Debi Waldin
There was no response. She waited 12 days and wrote you again.
From: Debi Waldin
Date: Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 4:28 PM
Subject: Meeting
To: Mike Brown
Hi Pastor Mike,
First of all I have really enjoyed your messages from I Samuel! Being a “PK” [i.e., preacher’s kid] I recognize good preaching when I hear it.
So about two weeks ago I sent an email asking if I could get together with you and Alana for a meeting and I haven’t heard from you so I’m just following up on that email. Could you please let me know when there might be a good time to sit down with you guys? I’d really appreciate it Pastor Mike. (I am the one that sits with Brent on Sundays in case you didn’t make the connection!)
Thank You,
Debi Waldin
Still no response. She writes a third time.
From: Debi Waldin
Date: September 3, 2025 at 12:07:24 AM CDT
To: Mike Brown
Subject: Meeting
Hi Pastor Mike,
This is Debi Waldin, and I wanted to reach out again to see if I might be able to meet with you and Alana. I wouldn’t take up much of your time. I’m sending this again, because I’m not sure that I actually got the email addy [address] correct!
I trust you are having a great week. I really look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
Debi Waldin
These three emails were sent over a two week period of time. It is incomprehensible you did not respond to her pleas! You were treating her like you treated me.
As a result, she approached you in person in the lobby after the worship service on Sunday, September 7 (four days later). You told her you and Alana would meet with her and instructed her to contact the office to set up an appointment.
She emailed the office the next morning.
From: Debi Waldin
Date: September 8, 2025 at 8:10:16 AM CDT
To: church@westfloridabaptist.com
Subject: Meeting
Good Morning,
I spoke with pastor Mike yesterday about meeting with both he and Alana and he told me to send an email to this address and that it could be arranged.
Thanks so much, and have a great day!
Kindest Regards,
Debi Waldin
Finally, after seven months of trying, at least Debi would be meeting with you so she could explain our circumstances and answer any questions you had. We were committed to walking in the light. What happened next was one of the worse displays of “pastoral” leadership I’ve ever observed.
From: Mike Brown
Date: Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 10:17 AM
Subject: Meeting Explanation
To: Brent Detwiler, Debi Waldin
Brent and Debi,
It has come to my attention that both of you left your previous church after being confronted about sin and that you have not made the situation right.
Brent, you were not open and honest with me when we first met. You withheld a huge part of your story. You told me that Debi was someone that could potentially become your wife, not that you were having an affair with her. This has been confirmed by her daughter [read "Jane" Speaks About the Real Story About Brent Detwiler (Jan. 23, 2026) for forceful rebuttal of daughter], your previous pastor, and is easy to find online as well.
I have intentionally kept you at arms length and have been praying that you both would acknowledge your sin and make it right with the Lord and the people in your life. This has not happened and until it does, I will not meet with you. I’m praying that this can be resolved in your heart before the Lord.
Mike Brown
I wrote you back the same day.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: Meeting Explanation
To: Mike Brown, Debi Waldin
Mike,
Are you interested in hearing the facts of the matter? Then please meet with us. You have come to some very faulty conclusions. There is so much you do not know and so much you have gotten wrong.
Meeting is the right, just, and charitable thing to do. It is wrong to cut us off without talking to us. Therefore, please change your mind and agree to meet in keeping with the explicit teaching of Scripture.
Prov. 18:17 (NKJV) The first one to plead his cause seems right, until his neighbor comes and examines him.
You have heard only one side of the case. Are you willing to hear the other side?
Would you answer one question? How long have you been intentionally keeping me at arm’s length? It seems since our first meetings in February 2025.
And let me add one major correction. Our short term and limited “affair” took place last September and October. Since then we have been friends. We were not having an affair when you and I met in February.
Mike, we need to meet. You have been misled and I am happy to answer any and all questions.
Thanks,
Brent
A few hours later, Debi wrote you in agony and disbelief. You acted nothing like her father would have in a situation like ours. He was a caring senior pastor for 45 years.
I’ve excerpted salient points below.
From: Debi Waldin
Date: Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 3:47 PM
Subject: Your email
To: Mike Brown
Wow, Mike!
It has taken me some time to even think how to respond to you.
I grew up as a “PK”. I don’t remember not going to church. And, as I read your response about not meeting with “us” (I approached you in the foyer 2 weeks ago about meeting with me and you told me “send an email to the “church” address and we can set something up), I wondered what my dad would have done in a situation like this.
Dad would have looked at the whole picture:
1. A couple has been faithfully attending his church for almost a year.
2. He receives information from someone claiming the couple has been living in sin, in an adulterous relationship, etc.
3. But, he does not know the person claiming these truths. And, at that point it would be hearsay.
4. Because he has the heart of a pastor HE contacts THE COUPLE and asks to meet.
Let’s say you are right about Brent and I … you have definitely reached the wrong conclusion, but what if you hadn’t? Jesus said to the Pharisees that it was not the well people that needed a doctor, but the sick.
Given the opportunity I would have shared some things with you that my daughter does not know [about her stepfather and Debi’s husband]. Things I have been having to hold close after consulting with my attorney. I know that you and Alana are godly people and I looked forward to sharing my heart.
I will tell you that last year - in September and October [2024] - I failed. I had a moral failure. I sinned. And just because someone does not treat you right [her husband, Ernie Waldin] it doesn’t give the right to do wrong. But, before my husband ambushed me by having Chris [Davenport] come to our house, I had already repented of what had happened. …
Please I ask this of you: if this kind of scenario happens again please use my “story” and the way you approached me (not wanting to meet) and listen to that person. You have said many times from the pulpit that we are broken, but your email indicates that some broken people are not fixable. I don’t believe that for a second and I believe I am proof of that!
She added:
More than my dad, I hope you will follow the example of Jesus, the great Shepherd of the sheep (Heb. 13:20), who said He would never leave us or forsake us (13:5). Please imitate His example.
Of course, Debi was never able to share her heart with you because your heart was closed to her. Nevertheless, we believe God has a redemptive purpose in mind for what we are walking through with you. Good will come from it.
If Your Brother Sins Tell Him His Faults - Responding to Your False Charges
I’ve already cited your “Meeting Explanation” (Sept. 19) email above in entirety. Now, I am going to address it in detail and point out your faults in hope you will repent.
I will also ask you some questions that I hope you openly and honestly answer. I will quote each of the three paragraphs in bold italics and then respond with facts and the evidence supporting those facts.
Paragraph 1:
It has come to my attention that both of you left your previous church after being confronted about sin and that you have not made the situation right.
I first attended First Baptist Church in Florala on February 11, 2024. I last attended on November 2. I was confronted about my sin on November 9 [correction Nov. 7]. I immediately repented, asked forgiveness, and moved out of the region to Milton which is 70 miles away and a 1 hour 20-minute drive.
I was never a member during my seven months of attending. Chris Davenport was never my pastor though we shared an acquaintance and I tried to help him. We met on one occasion on March 7, 2024. We were not friends.
The day after I was corrected, I wrote Chris and Jeremy Radney to specifically ask their forgiveness. Jeremy is a deacon and accompanied Chris the previous evening.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 4:41 PM
Subject: Forgiveness
To: Chris Davenport
Dear Chris and Jeremy,
I regret the impact of my hypocrisy upon you, brothers. Please forgive me. I will be moving and no longer attending FBC [First Baptist Church]. I don’t know how my name got in the directory since I’m not a member but it should be removed. Thank you.
And thank you especially for your faithfulness to preach the gospel and teach the Word of God.
Brent
From: Chris Davenport
Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: Forgiveness
To: Brent Detwiler
As far as Jeremy and I are concerned, we forgive you. I have been and will continue to pray for you as you seek the Lord. Mrs. Joyce [the secretary] should be taking care of correcting the directory.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Forgiveness
To: Chris Davenport
Thanks for your forgiveness and prayers!
I did make the situation right and Chris never indicated otherwise. I also made my confession public. Most everyone in the church was aware of my sin, repentance, and confession. More shortly.
Two weeks later, I wrote Chris to inquire about Todd Camp. Chris told Debi and I at the intervention on November 9 [correction Nov. 7] that he received instruction regarding his approach to us from his mentor. I had every reason to believe it was Todd but wrote Chris to confirm it.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:49 PM
Subject: Mentor?
To: Chris Davenport, Debi Waldin
Hi Chris,
Who was the mentor that instructed you on how to handle the situation with Debi and I? I would like to write him. Was it Todd Camp?
Thanks,
Brent
Todd is the senior pastor of New Harmony Baptist Church close to where I lived with the Waldin’s. I knew him, spent time with him, and attended his church for a season. I was also aware of serious issues in his life that were disqualifying in nature.
Todd and his wife Tina were the honored guest at the Homecoming for First Baptist Church on October 6, 2024. At that time, Chris publicly referred to him as his mentor. Chris used to work for Todd at New Harmony Baptist Church.
The approach taken with us was unethical, unbiblical, and against the law. I wanted to meet with Todd in private to talk about it. Yet, Chris never answered my question. He was not willing to walk in the light.
I will write you about Chris’ handling of our situation in the future when legal proceedings are over. The facts be told, he is the one who needs to “make the situation right” with Debi and me. You have it backwards.
Nevertheless, the Lord used a sinful process in His providence to bring needed correction to us. For that I am genuinely grateful.
Four days after I asked Chris about Todd Camp (and never received a response), I sent him and Jeremy my public confession. Once again, I did not hear from him. This was the perfect opportunity for him to respond to me if things were unresolved.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 6:43 AM
Subject: Amazing Grace...
To: Chris Davenport, Jeremy Radney
Please read.
Amazing Grace, How Sweet the Sound, that Saved a Wretch Like Me!
Friday, November 29, 2024 at 5:12PM
Paragraph 2:
Brent, you were not open and honest with me when we first met. You withheld a huge part of your story. You told me that Debi was someone that could potentially become your wife, not that you were having an affair with her. This has been confirmed by her daughter, your previous pastor, and is easy to find online as well.
This paragraph is full of accusations, all of which are slanderous and untrue. I will unpack it for you line by line.
“Brent, you were not open and honest with me when we first met. You withheld a huge part of your story. ”
You are accusing me of lying, deceit, and covering up my sin. You are blatantly wrong in every respect. Here are the facts.
We first met on February 5 at Covington Coffee.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: On Wednesday, February 5th, 2025 at 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Time Together
To: Mike Brown
Hey Mike,
It was a joy being with you [today]! I am tied up next Wednesday, but the following Wednesday, February 19 works for me.
Let me know if it works for you or pick another day.
Brent
During out first meeting we were rushed for time.
From: Mike Brown
Date: On Friday, February 7th, 2025 at 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Time Together
To: Brent Detwiler
Hi Brent,
I enjoyed being with you as well. Sorry I had to rush off like that. Would next Friday the 15th at 10:30 work? I would have till about 11:45 that day. Wednesday the 19th will not work for me. My boys and I have a dentist appointment that afternoon.
At the outset of our meeting, you asked about me, and I asked about you. I went first but we ran out of time. I shared about my upbringing, conversion, and ministry history. At the end, I briefly shared about the difficult work I’ve done exposing sex abusers and those who cover up for them.
In that regard, I mentioned my work with law enforcement, the national press, and my care for victims and their families. I also talked a bit about the corruption I’ve had to expose in major ministries. I was trying to cover as much ground as possible in a succinct but meaningful fashion that encompassed seven decades.
After the meeting, I wondered if I was too open and honest in telling you about my work in relation to men like C.J. Mahaney, John Piper, John MacArthur, Mark Dever, Al Mohler, and the Southern Baptist Convention. I thought there was a good chance I’d be unwelcome at West Florida Baptist Church henceforth because of my transparency.
During our meeting, I didn’t talk about Debi and my relationship and you didn’t ask about it. It was only our first occasion together. Our next meeting was on February 14. We set that one up so you could tell me your story like I told you my story.
For the next six months, I tried to set up time with you. I planned to share about Debi and me and answer any questions you may have. Moreover, our sin was public knowledge. I posted about it on my blog on November 29, 2024. Debi posted about it on her blog on December 3. There was nothing to hide. I did not withhold a “huge part” of my story from you. That is a very serious accusation without any basis.
You told me that Debi was someone that could potentially become your wife, not that you were having an affair with her.
First, I did not tell you this when we met on February 5. Mike, you are wrong about the most basic of facts. Follow along.
I moved to Milton on November 18, 2024. I began visiting a number of churches in the area to find a good one. I visited WFBC and told Debi about it. She was still living with her husband in New Harmony on their farm though she feared for her life.
On December 9, her husband cursed her with two middle fingers and yelled, “I wished I had killed you when I had the chance.” Up until this time, they were using separate bedrooms upstairs.
The next day, she got a motel room in Crestview for fear of her life. But for lack of funds, she had to move home because he locked her out of their financial accounts. At that point, she moved into the basement and locked her bedroom door at night praying God would keep her safe.
When Debi was able she’d make the 70 minute drive to Milton on Sunday mornings to visit churches with me.
Debi and I met you and Alana in the church lobby for the first time after the worship service on January 5, 2025. You assumed Debi was my wife and made a comment to that effect. I corrected it in an awkward way and said she was my friend but could become my wife. There was a long line of people behind us wanting to greet you. It was a brief exchange.
It was true, however, because she planned to divorce her husband on various grounds including his wish that she was dead. As it stands, we are friends and have no plans for marriage.
Second, we were not having an affair when we talked in the lobby on January 5, and not when we met on February 5. This is another of your sinful judgments for which you must take responsibility.
We were physically involved with each other for a period of about six weeks in September and October but never committed adultery. We repented in November.
This has been confirmed by her daughter, your previous pastor, and is easy to find online as well.
First, Debi’s daughter is guilty of the most serious kind of libel! She is not a Christian. She absolutely hates me and it goes back to my confronting of her husband for his profuse lying and manipulation in March and April of 2024. He has never repented. Someday, I will post our correspondence proving his guilt. [see Confronting the Profuse Lying & Manipulation of T.J. Fulmer, Jan., 26, 2026]
1 John 3:15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
Mike, read at “Jane” Speaks (Dec. 3, 2024) if you have any interest in the truth! It is written by Debi. The opening paragraphs set the stage regarding her daughter who has acted with great malice.
“Hello. My screen name is “Jane” given to me by my daughter. She went online and created a blog about Brent Detwiler and his move to FL to live with us. It is outrageous in its content, so I am going to honestly set the record straight.
“A few things to get out of the way first. Brent has not asked me to speak for him in anyway. This is my own idea, as he has not been the only one slandered. I have a few objectives in this blog. To address the outright slander against myself and since he lived with us for over a year to also set a lot of those facts straight. Finally, to give you a little bit of insight into my daughter who went online, wrote a blog, and intended to destroy both myself and Brent.”
This is an excerpt. Please read and study Debi’s entire post at “Jane” Speaks [see "Jane" Speaks About the Real Story About Brent Detwiler]
Second, Chris Davenport was never my “previous pastor.” Did he tell you that? Further, what exactly did he tell you that supposedly confirmed your accusations? Please walk in the light with me.
Honestly, he is the one who cannot be trusted. His handling of our situation was truly reprehensible. He did not follow Scripture. And he had no interest in caring for our souls. I will say more in the future.
Third, someone needs to take away your cell phone and tablet computer. Or better, cut off your internet connection. Seriously, I think you need accountability in this area of your life.
Yes, it is “easy to find online” all kinds of slander about me by people like Debi’s daughter and a host of other trolls including sex abusers. I have exposed a lot of evil and many hate me for it.
For example, read 100 Articles from 2012-2018 on the Conspiracy to Commit & Cover Up the Sexual Abuse of Children in Sovereign Grace Ministries. In addition, read My Story - Resume.
Paragraph 3:
I have intentionally kept you at arms length and have been praying that you both would acknowledge your sin and make it right with the Lord and the people in your life. This has not happened and until it does, I will not meet with you. I’m praying that this can be resolved in your heart before the Lord.
In my September 19 email I asked you this singular question. “Would you answer one question? How long have you been intentionally keeping me at arm’s length? It seems since our first meetings in February 2025.” I ask again because it appears you have intentionally held things against me for the last eight months but never told me. If so, that is contrary to every command of Scripture concerning Christian fellowship and friendship.
Moreover, it appears you did this all the while telling me in person you were not avoiding me and promising me in person we would meet. How long have you distanced yourself from me?
This much is clear. You have justified keeping me at arm’s length based upon the faulty notion we have not acknowledged our sin, or made it right with the Lord and other people. That is simply not the case.
Mike, I posted my confession on my blog on November 29, 2024. See Amazing Grace, How Sweet the Sound, that Saved a Wretch Like Me!. It was read by tens of thousands of people.
I also sent my confession to all the former and current pastors in Sovereign Grace Churches. Moreover, I sent it to approximately 300 national leaders including those in the Christian press. I’ve never seen a national leader acknowledge their sin like I have done.
And yet, you are clueless because you were not willing to search out the truth. Instead, a false witness and slanderer approached you like the serpent approached Eve and you believed her lies. You were content to eat the delicious morsels of gossip and slander that poisoned your soul and separated us as friends.
Proverbs 18:8 The words of a whisperer are like delicious morsels; they go down into the inner parts of the body.
Proverbs 16:28 A dishonest man spreads strife, and a whisperer separates close friends.
Mike, you are like a glutton who has gorged himself upon gossip, slander, and libel. Debi’s daughter is a “talebearer” as it reads in the KJV and you have believed her tall tales.
Please study this excellent article by GotQuestions.org. Here are the opening paragraphs. I’ve highlighted key phrases in bold italics.
What does the Bible say about slander? | GotQuestions.org
The old adage “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me” is not true. Words can do a great deal of damage to those who have been slandered. Slander is making a false verbal statement that damages someone’s reputation. Slander differs slightly from libel in that libel is a written defamation of character; slander is only spoken. The Bible says a lot about slander, in both Old Testament and New (Proverbs 10:18; 1 Peter 2:1). Slander is so high on God’s list of wrongs that He included it in the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:16). The ninth commandment says, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” Bearing false witness includes slander because of the untruths being spread. Slander is simply lying about someone with the intent of causing others to view that person in a negative light.
Slander is malicious lying, and God hates lying (Proverbs 6:16–19; 12:22). Since God is the author of truth (John 14:6; 1 John 5:6), anything untrue is in opposition to His nature and therefore repulsive to Him. Both slander and gossip are wrong, and Scripture often condemns them together (Leviticus 19:16; Proverbs 16:27; 2 Corinthians 12:20), but slander takes gossip to a whole new level. Gossip collects someone’s secrets and passes them to others; slander makes up its own secrets and broadcasts them wherever they will do the most harm. …
Finally you say,
This has not happened and until it does, I will not meet with you. I’m praying that this can be resolved in your heart before the Lord.
Yes it has happened! Your heart is so full of sinful judgements. Have you not read, “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgement you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.”
Mike, you have judged us falsely, harshly, and hypocritically. That is what Jesus condemns in this section of Scripture (Matt. 7:1-5). Do you not fear the just judgement of God for your unjust judgements?
A year ago, we repented of our sin and it was forgiven. But even if we didn’t confess our sin that is no excuse for you not to meet with us! We’ve been faithfully attending WFBC for eight months. A true shepherd does just the opposite! He pursues the stray sheep with the hope of restoration. He does not cut them off, push them off a cliff, or allow them to be devoured by wolves like Debi’s malevolent daughter.
Luke 15:1-7 Now the tax collectors and sinners were all drawing near to hear him. [2] And the Pharisees and the scribes grumbled, saying, “This man receives sinners and eats with them.” [3] So he told them this parable: [4] “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open country, and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it? [5] And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. [6] And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep that was lost.’ [7] Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
You should not be condemning us, Mike. You should be rejoicing that two lost sheep have been found.
In like fashion, consider this command by Paul the apostle.
Galatians 6:1 Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted.
You have demonstrated no interest in being gentle or restorative or looking to yourself. Instead, you have acted self-righteously and condemned us like the woman caught in adultery (John 8:1-11). In so doing, you have failed to watch over your soul and succumbed to the temptation of sin due to pride.
You should have been like the good Samaritan, not the priest or Levite, “who passed by on the other side” (Luke 10:26-37). We would have appreciated your love, care, and involvement. Instead, we were rejected for no good or godly reason.
The last thing you say is, “I’m praying that this can be resolved in your heart before the Lord.” This statement is the height of hypocrisy.
You have violated command after command of Scripture. You should be praying for your own heart. We fully acknowledged our sin a year ago and made it right with the Lord.
Further, you were happy to believe the malicious slander of people you did not know, without even talking to us whom you did know. And all you knew from me was kindness, helpfulness, and encouragement over many months.
Yet, you resolved not to “hear the other side,” “leave your gift,” “love your neighbor,” “do unto others,” “go to your brother,” or “restore in a spirit of gentleness.” This amounts to hatred in the words of Scripture. In this matter, you have acted like an unbeliever.
Therefore, I humbly pray your heart will be restored to God and you return to us in contrition.
I write in the name and love of Christ.
Brent
The Second Step of Matthew 18:15-17: Appealing to the West Florida Baptist Church (WFBC) Pastors
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 1:31 PM
Subject: Tell His Fault to Two or Three Witnesses (Matt. 18:16)
To: Brown Mike, Joel Beck, Hamish Lamb, Chuck Craig, Dan Libby
To the Elders of WFBC,
Debi Waldin and I have faithfully gone to Mike to tell him his fault in private but he has not listened.
Matthew 18:15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.”
Therefore, we are coming to you.
Matthew 18:16 “But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.”
The text does not require I come to the elders or pastors but I’ve decided it is the best way to proceed though I have some hesitancy given the fact Dan and Chuck never answered my simple questions a couple of Sundays ago.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 9:54 PM
Subject: Are You Aware? Do You Agree?
To: Dan Libby, Chuck Craig
Hi Dan and Chuck,
I hope you had a wonderful Lord’s Day!
Could you answer two questions for me? Are you aware of Mike’s refusal to meet with Debi and me? Do you agree with it? See my appeals to him below.
Thanks,
Brent
You are also welcome to forward this correspondence to all the deacons (i.e., David Brown, Sid Covington, Steve German, Larry Hull, Ben Pearce, Mark Yorey) if appropriate. I don’t know what ruling function they have in the church.
The evidentiary charges against Mike come separately from Debi and me. Those charges are clearly documented in “If Your Brother Sins Tell Him His Fault” (Oct. 9, 2025) which you will find attached as a PDF. If you want to talk about them with us in person, please feel free to contact me.
We asked that you study the evidence and establish their veracity. Then we ask that you appeal to Mike for his repentance. In so doing, you too become faithful witnesses against him for his good.
“two or three witnesses. Here, the witnesses’ first (and ideally only) role is to confirm the testimony of the offended brother in speaking to the offender, with a view toward his listening to the group and repenting, so that the dispute need not be brought to the church.” (The Reformation Study Bible, Matthew 18:16)
The same instruction is given by Paul the apostle.
1 Timothy 5:19-21 Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. [20] As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear. [21] In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the elect angels I charge you to keep these rules without prejudging, doing nothing from partiality.
These instructions to Timothy regard elders in the Ephesian church who were charged with wrongdoing. First, he was not to admit or consider a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. Second, he was not to prejudge. Third, he was not to be partial. Four, these rules were to be carried coram Deo – before the face of God.
To prejudge is to judge before you have evaluated the evidence. In others words, coming to a conclusion of guilt or innocence prematurely. To be partial is to show bias or favoritism toward an elder. In other words, going easy on him when discipline is required. Both prejudging and partiality are sinful. Paul charges Timothy in the presence of God, Christ, and angels to obey his rules.
These rules are also found in the Old Testament (Deut. 16:18-29; 19:15-21). “You shall not pervert justice. You shall not show partiality. Justice, and only justice, you shall follow.”
These solemn responsibilities cannot be neglected in the examination of an erring elder.
“I charge you. Church discipline (v. 20) is never easy. Nor is it easy for disciplinary measures to be orderly, fair, and impartial. Timothy must not skirt these duties, so Paul invokes “God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels” (not Satan and other fallen angels) to underscore his word.” (NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible, 1 Timothy 5:21)
Therefore, would you do justice and address Mike’s transgressions and kindly let us know if he repents or refuses to repent? We hope to receive a good report in the next two or three weeks.
Sincerely,
Brent
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 5:21 PM
Subject: Please Update Me on Your Appeal to Mike
To: Joel Beck, Lamb Hamish, Chuck Craig, Dan Libby
Hello Dan, Chuck, Joel, and Hamish,
I wrote to you a couple of weeks ago about appealing to Mike as fellow pastors and wondered how things are coming along. I sincerely hope he is turning to God in repentance.
If not, it will be necessary for you to rebuke him before the church for persisting in sin. Here is the way Paul put it to Timothy.
1 Timothy 5:20 As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.
“5:20 As a result of this public rebuke, the rest will stand in fear (of sinning). This refers specifically to the “rest of the elders,” but it probably also implies “the rest of the congregation,” since the rebuking was done “in the presence of all” (see further Deut. 19:15-21, which also support this).” (ESV Study Bible)
The translation note for “rebuke” in the New English Translation (NET) rightly says, “The Greek word implies exposing someone’s sin in order to bring correction.”
The elders in Ephesus were being overseen by Timothy on behalf of Paul. He had God given authority to direct them. I realize WFBC is an independent Bible church so there is no outside accountability.
This makes it all the more crucial that you men are speaking into Mike’s life and holding him accountable. I have worked with churches for over 45 years. Rarely have I seen the senior pastor of a large church like WFBC addressed on issues of character by his staff pastors. In most cases, they remain silent in the face of faults or cover up for fear of losing their job or being promoted. There is no true plurality.
When I first met with Mike in February [2025], he told me there was no one speaking into his life or discipling him. He had no mentors. He suggested I might fill that role and though I never mentored him, I have been trying to help him.
Well, I hope you are making progress in caring for Mike’s soul. I would appreciate an update from you in the next week on where things stand.
Thank you,
Brent
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Fri, Nov 7, 2025 at 2:38 PM
Subject: Tell His Fault to the Church
To: Mike Brown, Joel Beck, Lamb Hamish, Chuck Craig, Dan Libby
Hello Dan, Chuck, Joel, and Hamish,
Another week has gone by and I have not heard back from you regarding Mike. This compounds the situation because your sin now comes into play. You have chosen to treat him with partiality and favoritism in disregard of Scripture. Mike’s sin is not obscure. It is plain and obvious. It is also serious.
James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
Together you have transgressed many commands of Scripture as pastors and teachers. This brings about God’s stricter judgement. It is especially true when we fail to practice what we preach as I did in the fall of 2024.
James 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
I came across this on the website. West Florida Baptist Church - Plan a Visit
Each week, Pastor carefully studies and presents the truth of God’s Word so we can apply it to our lives in obedience and for God’s glory.
Yet, you have not applied the truth of God’s Word in relation to Debi and me. Rather, you have chosen to disobey its clear teaching and set aside the glory of God. This never works out well in the providence of God.
The Ninth Commandment says, “Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” But Mike has heartlessly embraced the most vicious kind of slander against me by Debi’s daughter.
And instead of reproving Mike, you have acted to protect him. I am left to conclude you are more concerned about your own glory and reputation than doing what is right.
Jesus laid down a four step process for addressing brothers or sisters who sin against us.
Matthew 18:15-17 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. [16] But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. [17] If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
This same basic process is laid out for elders who sin.
1 Timothy 5:19-21 Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. [20] As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear. [21] In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the elect angels I charge you to keep these rules without prejudging, doing nothing from partiality.
Paul the apostle also tells Timothy that an elder or overseer must be “above reproach” (1 Tim. 3:2) and “blameless” (Tit. 1:6, 7) in order to serve in pastoral ministry. Until Mike repents, he is disqualified from ministry for an array of serious sins.
It has been my hope, prayer, and goal to see him restored to Christ and to Debi and me. He obviously has no interest in pursuing these noble goals. Mike is a fine teacher but he is a hypocrite. And it appears you are imitating him.
As I said before, “Rarely have I seen the senior pastor of a large church like WFBC addressed on issues of character by his staff pastors. In most cases, they remain silent in the face of faults or cover up for fear of losing their job or being promoted. There is no true plurality.”
It is therefore necessary to follow the third step in Jesus’ teaching and “tell it to the church.” I hope they will speak up and you will listen. I never imagined this would be required. I always assumed Mike would submit to the authority of Scripture and humble himself before the Lord Jesus Christ.
I also hoped you would faithfully address him and then write to me, talk to me, or meet with me. Instead, you have chosen to harden your hearts before the Lord and dismiss the evidence I have presented without a hearing.
This disobedience puts the church in a perilous place because the discipline and opposition of the Lord God will only grow as He takes further steps to address you. Peter and James tell us, “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble” (1 Pet. 5:5; Jam. 4:6). Therefore, I implore you to obey the Bible you teach by His grace, for His glory, and because of the cross.
Your friend in Christ,
Brent
Addendum: Pertinent Correspondence in Chronological Order
Below is my correspondence with Mike from January 7 to July 19, 2015. It includes the input I provided him on various subjects.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 3:37 PM
Subject: Time Together
To: Mike Brown
Hi Mike,
I’d love to get with you. Send a couple days and times that work for you. I look forward to it.
Brent
From: Mike Brown
Date: On Tuesday, January 28th, 2025 at 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Time Together
To: Brent Detwiler
Good afternoon. I am so sorry I did not respond to this sooner! I was out of town and then with the storm and everything going on, it’s been busy and different than normal!
Anyway, I know this is very late notice but I am available tomorrow at 12:30 if that works for you? If not, next Wednesday [Feb. 5] I will also be available at the same time? If you need a different day, just let know.
I’m looking forward to getting together with you,
Mike
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: On Wednesday, February 5th, 2025 at 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Time Together
To: Mike Brown
Hey Mike,
It was a joy being with you [today]! I am tied up next Wednesday, but the following Wednesday, February 19 works for me.
Let me know if it works for you or pick another day.
Brent
From: Mike Brown
Date: On Friday, February 7th, 2025 at 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Time Together
To: Brent Detwiler
Hi Brent,
I enjoyed being with you as well. Sorry I had to rush off like that. Would next Friday the 15th at 10:30 work? I would have till about 11:45 that day. Wednesday the 19th will not work for me. My boys and I have a dentist appointment that afternoon.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: On Friday, February 7th, 2025 at 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Time Together
To: Mike Brown
Next Friday, the 14th (not 15th) works well. See you at 10:30.
From: Mike Brown
Date: On Tuesday, March 11th, 2025 at 1:43 PM
Subject: Apostles and Prophets
To: Brent Detwiler
Good Afternoon Brent,
First of all, I pray that you are recovering from your surgery and that you aren’t in too much pain!
Secondly, I wanted to ask you how you would explain the continuation of Apostles and Prophets? I am studying Ephesians 4:11 and was just curious as to your thoughts on of those offices are still in existence today.
No need for a rushed response and no need for a response if you aren’t feeling up for one this week!
God Bless,
Mike
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: On Tuesday, March 11th, 2025 at 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Apostles and Prophets
To: Mike Brown
Wow! That’s a loaded question. Let me take two percosets before I respond. I am joking of course. Forty years ago I wrote an article on the continuing need for apostolic ministry [“20th Century Apostles? They’re As Necessary Today As They Were 2,000 Years Ago.”] I’ve attached it. The next time we meet feel free to bring the tar, feathers, and match. Goofing around aside, your question is a legitimate and important one.
We must define (and I think defend within reason) the ministry of post-ascension apostles and prophets. I’ll skip on the later for now. In a nutshell, apostles are men called and gifted to plant churches with the gospel, teach sound doctrine, help identify and train leaders, provide care and oversight in hard times, and bring churches together to partner in the Great Commission. I think of men like Luther, Calvin, Spurgeon and countless missionaries throughout the church age. “Missio” is Latin for “to send.” I also think of some men heading up church planting networks or ministries.
I think denominational leaders and church hierarchies are a false substitute. Apostolic ministry is about relationships. It is personal like it was for Paul, Timothy, and Titus. It was not about numbers or vain glory.
Love you.
Brent
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 9:34 AM
Subject: RE Apostles and Prophets
To: Mike Brown
Hi Mike,
I decided to resend my answer using my Gmail account in case it did not reach you yesterday via my Proton account. Please feel free to use my Gmail address in the future.
From: Mike Brown
Date: Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: RE Apostles and Prophets
To: Brent Detwiler
Thank you Brent! I did get both emails and your initial answer was very helpful, along the lines of what I was thinking. I will pick my study on Ephesians 4 back up tomorrow and see where it all goes. Thank you again!
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: RE Apostles and Prophets
To: Mike Brown
You’re welcome.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 5:14 PM
Subject: Church Membership / Statement of Faith
To: Mike Brown
Hi Mike,
It has been good to learn more about WFBC the past three weeks [Mar. 2, 9, 16]. I’d like to become a member but that may not be possible since I disagree with the Statement of Faith on The Second Coming.
I hold to a post-tribulation view of the rapture and an amillennial view (rather than a dispensational premillennial view) of Christ’s reign. I understand if this precludes membership. If so, I will still joyfully attend and support you in every way I can.
I give thanks to God for you!
Brent
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 3:32 PM
Subject: Getting the Gospel Right! (When So Many Are Getting It Wrong)
To: Mike Brown, Joel Beck, Hamish Lamb, Chuck Craig, Dan Libby, Jonathan Anderson
Hello Gentlemen,
Today was Missions Emphasis Sunday. It was good to hear Jonathan give testimony to God’s work in Mexico and Cuba. It brought back memories.
In 2003, I went to Cuba to train the leaders of a church planting ministry. At the time, the country was under a strict embargo. No one could visit the island. Yet through connections with the Bush administration, I was able to get a “religious visa.” The entire time we were being surveilled and threatened by the Cuba authorities.
One of the messages I gave was titled, “Getting the Gospel Right!” It was a message I first taught in 1983 to pastors under my care in the United States. It is best taught as a four-part series (at a minimum) but I’ve condensed it when necessary to a standalone sermon. See GETTING THE GOSPEL RIGHT.
I’ve attached the four outlines I hand out to people when preaching or teaching. It is a simple exposition of John 3:16-21 that covers the reason, reality, response, and results of the gospel. These are often confused with each other. It also defines the gospel as the birth, life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ.
As you well-know, there is no more important message in all of Scripture. It is one of the things I love most about WFBC. That is your commitment to glory in the gospel and proclaim it throughout the world.
You are welcome to use this material in any way, shape, or form without attribution. It can be given to parents to teach their children. Or taught to the 25 teens heading to Honduras this summer. Or passed onto the church staff, school staff, or worship team. Or please feel free to modify and reformat its contents to your liking and use it as you see fit.
I’ve also attached an article on “The Centrality of the Gospel.” You can also read my testimony at God Almighty, Billy Graham & My Conversion to Christ - BrentDetwiler.com if interested.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 9:33 AM
Subject: Forward Packets of Material
To: Brown Mike, Hamish Lamb
Mike,
I put two packets of material on your seat in the auditorium this morning but later noticed you are not preaching today. Hamish, could you forward them to Mike?
Thanks,
Brent
April 6, 2025
Greetings Mike,
I hope you are well in the love of God the Father, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the power of the Holy Spirit!
R.C. Sproul (now deceased) and Ligonier Ministries has produced some of the best material available to the church in our day.
In January, I tried to pass on a copy to you of Saved From What? via a person working behind the counter on Sunday morning. I think it was Aaron Maynard. You were going to look for it. Evidently, you never found it. It is definitely worth your read.
I’d also recommend you read Sproul’s highly acclaimed The Holiness of God. It is already considered a classic. The most important attribute of God is the most neglected. That is tragic because people cannot appreciate the love and grace of God until they have been awe struck and fearfully humbled by the holiness of God.
I also decided to provide you, the pastors, and the worship leader (Nathaniel) a copy of The Great Rescue: Understanding the Saving Work of Christ.” Copies are enclosed in the Prime envelope. This is an abridgement of his book, Saved From What?
I read the book, Done: What most religions never tell you. It was recommended by Dan [correction: Chuck] at the new members class. I think you will find The Great Rescue qualitatively better. In my opinion, Done is theologically defective and deficient in some significant ways. You may want to distribute The Great Rescue to the class instead. I often give this book to Christians, professed Christians, and unbelievers after sharing the gospel with them.
I am also passing on some information to help you discern the influence of the therapeutic movement in so much of what is sung, taught, written, and counseled in the contemporary church at large. For example, we sang, “For God So Loved” (Bing Videos) on March 9. One stanza instructs people to “Bring all your failures, bring your addictions, come lay them down at the foot of the cross, Jesus is waiting there with open arms.”
I don’t want to sound harsh but this is misleading from my perspective. At the cross, we repent of our sins (not failures) and idolatry (not addictions) and contemplate his “open arms” because the justified wrath of God has been propitiated.
In a similar way, John (I don’t know his last name) shared his story of recovery with the men at the prayer breakfast on March 2. Unfortunately, it was completely void of the gospel. There was no mention of his sin or Christ’s saving work. It was all about being made whole (in a psychological sense) and healed of his past. There was no reference to forgiveness by God, reconciliation with God, or sanctifying grace from God.
Please be assured, I am grateful to God for the change in his life. Yet, none of it was attributed to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Based on his comments, I think he has misdiagnosed the real issues in his life as defined by Scripture. Of course, I share this because I want him to be grounded in a biblical worldview so he will not stumble in the future. You are his pastor. Not me. You know him better and I could be wrong. Let me also add, I have not gone through “Coming Clean Recovery” so this is not a commentary on the curriculum. I just know the influence of the therapeutic gospel is ubiquitous.
By way of example, I have included a “Letter Regarding Alcoholism and Psychology” that I sent a Christian psychologist who had written me. She headed a recovery center for addicts and alcoholics. She wrote in part,
“Chemical addiction is not a sin or a matter of will power, but rather a biological disease…Thus, the afflicted individual is not sinful, selfish, or lacking in self-control, but is suffering from a chronic and lethal disease as legitimately as someone who is suffering from cancer or diabetes.”
When I taught on the doctrine of sanctification in the Pastors College I provided the letter to students as a handout.
I’ve also included several articles from two issues of our magazine. In particular, take note of the article by Robin Boisvert titled, “The Couch or the Cross.”
I’d suggest you examine the material produced by the Christian Counseling and Education Foundation (CCEF). David Powlison was a friend of ours. He with the Lord now. He is interviewed in one of the articles. There is such a great need to recover biblical counseling based on the doctrine of sin, salvation, and sanctification.
I wrote you on March 16 (enclosed) about whether or not I am precluded from church membership. I did not hear back from you or Dan [Chuck] so I’ve concluded that is the case. I also sent you four outlines on “Getting the Gospel Right!” on March 23 and 25. I received no acknowledgement. They are enclosed for your convenience in case you did not receive them.
One of the reasons I sent the outlines was because Jonathan preached that morning on “Advancing the Gospel.” Unfortunately, he never defined the gospel even though he referred to it by name many times. The gospel was assumed. That is very common. Preachers and teachers often reference the “gospel” without articulating it.
Again, I don’t level this as an accusation against Jonathan. I have no doubt he understands the gospel but it is easy for anyone to marginalize the gospel or dilute it or fail to preach it – especially the offense of the cross. That is one of the things I love about you. You are not ashamed of the gospel. Rather, you are passionate about proclaiming the person and work of our great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ!
Thank you.
Brent
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 10:02 AM
Subject: Chuck Not Dan
To: Brown Mike
In my correspondence today I said in part, “I read the book, Done: What most religions never tell you. It was recommended by Dan at the new members class.”
I meant to say it was recommended by Chuck.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 9:33 AM
Subject: Forward Packets of Material
To: Brown Mike; Hamish Lamb
Mike,
I put two packets of material on your seat in the auditorium this morning but later noticed you are not preaching today. Hamish, could you forward them to Mike?
Thanks,
Brent
From: Hamish Lamb
Date: Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Forward Packets of Material
To: Brent Detwiler
I brought them to my office and will give them to him when he returns!
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Forward Packets of Material
To: Lamb Hamish
Thank you, Hamish. And thanks for your labors today in preaching the excellencies of Christ.
From: Hamish Lamb
Date: Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Forward Packets of Material
To: Brent Detwiler
No problem! I have delivered the items to his desk. Also, it was my pleasure! All glory to Christ!
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 2:28 PM
Subject: Membership / Meeting Together
To: Brown Mike
Hi Mike,
First of all thanks for the tremendous Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday services. They were both a wonderful means of grace to all in attendance. Your “Hallelujah What a Savior!” message was the finest presentation of the gospel I’ve heard you give.
I’ve attached an article you may enjoy on “The Goodness of God in Good Friday.” Thank you for living, breathing, and preaching the very truths it contains.
Two weeks ago, I wrote Chuck a thoughtful note regarding membership but did not hear back from him. I am forwarding it to you in case he did not.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 1:26 PM
Subject: Membership in WFBC
To: Chuck Craig
Hi Chuck,
I received your April 10 voicemail. Thanks for calling.
Below is an email to Mike on March 16 regarding church membership and the Statement of Faith. Unfortunately, I am prevented from becoming a member due to my beliefs regarding the Second Coming of Christ. Cf. West Florida Baptist Church - Become a Member.
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 5:14 PM
Subject: Church Membership / Statement of Faith
To: Mike Brown
Hi Mike,
It has been good to learn more about WFBC the past three weeks. I’d like to become a member but that may not be possible since I disagree with the Statement of Faith on The Second Coming.
I hold to a post-tribulation view of the rapture and an amillennial view (rather than a dispensational premillennial view) of Christ’s reign. I understand if this precludes membership. If so, I will still joyfully attend and support you in every way I can.
I give thanks to God for you!
Brent
The pastors and elders may want to reconsider this eschatological requirement for membership since many outstanding Christians and theologians hold to posttribulationism and historic premillennialism or amillennialism. For example, John Piper. As it stands, he could not be a member in WFBC. In my opinion, that is not a line that needs to be drawn for membership. Otherwise, I agree with the Statement of Faith.
You could also say in a footnote to the Statement of Faith that the pastors hold to pretribulationism and dispensational premillennialism but this is not a requirement for membership. On this point, you could allow for differences.
With charity,
Brent
We were together three months ago. At the time, I said I’d be glad to meet “sooner or later” and to drop me a line if interested. We also talked briefly on Palm Sunday. Mike, I want to release you from any sense of obligation to get with me. There is no need. Your schedule is full and you must make family, leaders, and church members the priority. I understand.
Praying for you!
Brent
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 4:27 PM
Subject: The Wisdom of Submission
To: Brown Mike
Attached are some outlines built around a teaching series on Titus 2:3-5 by my wife who is with the Lord. You may gain an idea or two for Sunday’s message from her outline on submission.
Attached:
The Heart of Godly Woman (Session 1) – When Faith Meets Life
The Heart of Godly Woman (Session 2) – Loving My Husband
The Heart of Godly Woman (Session 5) – Passion for Purity
The Heart of Godly Woman (Session 6) – A Home Centered Heart
The Heart of Godly Woman (Session 8) – The Wisdom of Submission
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 9:18 AM
Subject: Parenting Outlines
To: Mike Brown; Joel Beck; Hamish Lamb; Chuck Craig; Dan Libby; Jonathan Anderson
I’m sending on some outlines on parenting you may find of interest. I look forward to Mike’s teaching on Eph. 6:1-4. Thanks for building a church committed to God’s plan for marriage and family life.
Attached:
Outline 1 – God’s Grace & Parental Responsibility
Outline 2 – Real Life Lesson from Mary & Eli the High Priest
Outline 3 – Gospel Centered Parenting
Outline 4 – The Obedient Child
Outline 5 – The High Call of Motherhood & Fatherhood
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 9:23 AM
Subject: Parenting Outlines
To: Mike Brown; Joel Beck; Hamish Lamb; Chuck Craig; Dan Libby; Jonathan Anderson
Attached:
Outline 6 – Leading Your Children Spiritually
Outline 7 – Do Not Exasperate Your Children
Outline 8 – Honor Your Father & Mother
Outline 9 – Parenting Through the Teenage Years
Outline 10 – Preparing Your Children for Marriage & Family Life
From: Brent Detwiler
Date: Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 1:07 PM
Subject: The Armor of God
To: Mike Brown, Dan Libby
I’ve attached a couple outlines. “Satan, Demons, & Spiritual Warfare” covers the armor of God text in Eph. 6:10ff. you will be covering next week. You may find it helpful.
I’ve also attached “Temptation of Christ - Harmony & Interpretation.”